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  • 关于一些新功能的请求

1.关于筛选功能
,很多时候筛选功能会帮助我区分不同的关键帧,但是有的时候经常需要频繁切换,特别是项目巨大而且工期较长的情况,尤其是绘制顺序的帧一直存在和ik变换的帧只能在目标骨骼看到等等情况,能否给筛选功能添加如同”ctrl + 1”那样的存储组?或者制作一个类似曲线界面、但又像偏好界面可以控制弹出的面板?比如我用ps简单制作界面?


你可以类似曲线列表存储相应曲线那样,直观得选择你需要的筛选项

2.关于自动备份文件夹,也就是位于根目录的C:\Users\Administrator\Spine\backup,说实话这个设计太好了,它省了我很多麻烦,也救了我很多次。但是随着使用时间的增加,文件越来越多,文件夹也越来越大,而且貌似无法将其设置为其他文件夹,我也尝试从里面提取出一些文件的最后版本,然后删除其他的,但是它太多了,文件真的太多了。
能否出一个定时删除超过一定时间的备份文件,但保留最后一版的功能?比如在同一个文件在几天内保存了连续的1到200版,超过一定时间后则保留1和200版,其余删除。但我的考虑可能不周到,也有可能一天内要打开好久个项目,但也请出清理或者迁移文件夹的功能。

3.动作融合真是一个十分棒的设计,它大大省去了我对接不同动画首尾帧以及K相关动作的时间,甚至还可以实现类似live2d的效果。但是当我想要以一种高质量的方式导出关于动作融合的动画时,我发现导出选项并没有办法进行导出,能否请在导出选项中设置动作融合的相关选项?

4.通常使用偏移功能来使飘带或者一些关节部分产生运动后缀,但随着飘带数量的增多与飘带长度的增加,一行一行得逐渐拉动偏移变成了无聊且耗时的事情。尽管4.2带来了物理引擎,但以出于性能或者版本等诸多方面的限制使得目前目前完全没有遇到可以使用物理引擎的项目,哪怕是4.2版本的也没有。哪怕使用4.2物理引擎后再通过一些方式K出关键帧,导出json到其他版本,但从整个工作流来看似乎有些吃力不讨好,而且总有3.8甚至以下的项目在导入时会遇到各种各样的问题,对物理引擎各个参数的调节以达到最佳效果也是一个需要研究的事情。

我知道未来肯定会实现物理引擎自动转化成关键帧的功能,但在之前,是否可以先出一个简单的对选中的帧分别偏移的功能来改善这种情况?
(实现效果类似于:假如我框选中了三行的三个关键帧,我使用整体偏移的时候按往右移动一格,则这三行上整个循环的所有帧分别偏移1、2、3帧,按住右移动两格则偏移2、4、6帧这样子,与位移功能有相似处)

或者你们已经打算在近期推出物理引擎转关键帧的功能了?

  • Misaki님이 이에 답장했습니다.
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    关于您的问题:

    1. 关于筛选功能的改进,您提到的存储组和类似曲线界面的控制面板的想法非常有趣。目前,Spine 的筛选功能还没有这样的存储组功能,但这是一个值得考虑的建议,可以提高工作效率。

    2. 自动备份文件夹的管理确实是一个常见的问题。虽然目前没有内置的功能来自动删除旧的备份文件,但您可以手动管理这些文件夹。一个可能的解决方案是使用脚本定期清理备份文件夹,保留最新版本。

    3. 动作融合的导出选项目前在 Spine 中还没有直接支持。您可以尝试通过其他方式导出动画,例如使用视频捕捉软件录制动画播放。

    4. 关于偏移功能的改进,您提到的自动偏移功能在未来可能会通过物理引擎的改进来实现。目前,您可以尝试手动调整关键帧,或者使用脚本来简化这一过程。物理引擎转关键帧的功能在未来的版本中可能会实现,但目前还没有具体的时间表。

    希望这些信息对您有所帮助!

    krammor Thank you for your suggestions! I appreciate them, but I recommend that you create separate threads for different topics whenever possible. If the content of each suggestion is similar, you can post them in the same thread, but these suggestions are so broad that it becomes difficult to keep track of what we are discussing as the discussion progresses. As a general rule, it would be good if you could make sure that the title and content of your posts match.


    1. Adding selection groups to filtering is an interesting idea, however we already have another idea for improving selection groups, which we think would be more versatile: adding a Selections view. Currently it is not possible to edit selections stored in the number keys or name them for selection groups, but we think it would be beneficial to add a dedicated view. An improvement ticket for this issue can be found here: EsotericSoftware/spine-editor409

    2. The backup folder can actually be changed to a different folder using a symbolic link. By changing the destination folder, it would be easier to introduce another folder management tool or other tool to clean up the folder over a period of time.

    3. Do you mean Mix or tracks when you say motion blend? We have long had an idea to improve the Preview view and add the feature to record and export the combined animations, and if this can be implemented, I think we can achieve what you want: EsotericSoftware/spine-editor371

    4. The difficulty of managing the large number of timeline shifts with offsets has been discussed for quite some time, and the idea of adding a non-destructive offset feature has been on our roadmap for many years EsotericSoftware/spine-editor153
      Many cases should be solved by physics, but we still think that this idea of non-destructive offsets will be valid in some cases, so we have not closed the ticket even after implementing the physics.

    We have received requests from many users about allowing baking, but have no plans to add it in the near future.
    We also do not recommend a workflow where animations created using a newer version are downgraded to an older version for use. We have made upgrading the runtime and editor as easy as possible by minimising scripting changes and providing convenient scripts for re-exporting large numbers of Spine projects to new versions. If you want to use any of the features in the new version, please consider upgrading the runtime and editor versions on that project.

    • krammor님이 이에 답장했습니다.

      Misaki 感谢你的回复

      关于问题1:
      我猜测你可以误解了我的意思,我的建议是增加一个比较小的筛选视窗来自定义选择你想要的筛选组,比如这个图:

      选择组1,你可以仅仅在时间轴上显示移动、X轴移动以及RGBA的关键帧
      旋转组2,你可以仅仅在时间轴上显示网格、旋转、倾斜、缩放的关键帧

      但这个改进组是针对骨骼的,用于存储骨骼、网格、或者插槽的,但这个提议也非常不错,希望你们能尽快做出来
      EsotericSoftware/spine-editor409

      • Misaki님이 이에 답장했습니다.

        krammor Ah, there is another related issue on our roadmap that I failed to mention. We received a suggestion from another user that it would be useful to have the ability to save combinations of filter buttons as presets, we have saved this idea in the following issue ticket:
        EsotericSoftware/spine-editor727

        I have added a link to this thread to the comments on that issue. You can subscribe to this issue ticket to receive notifications when there is any progress on this issue.